Constantly insulting, being mean, etc. - Owner Tank

by **Kelly** 9/3/2013, 12:59 pm

I've seen on a few occasions today threads I was viewing overrun by Owner Tank arguing with other people, putting them down, being generally mean, etc. Here are two examples (from yesterday)

http://www.smokinelite.com/t73518-my-life-is-complete
Middle of the page both he and Antdemo argued for a good half a page.

http://www.smokinelite.com/t73612-scammed-by-owner-tank
He and the person who he supposedly scammed argued for half a page, insulting one another, etc., so much so that a Moderator had to warn them to stop.

Someone just being rubbed the wrong way by one person is fine, but this seems like it will turn into a constant thing...

by **Owner Tank** 9/3/2013, 6:42 pm

Kelly, so what your saying is replying to some one acting like an immature prick on your topic and sending you insulting pms and replying back to them is "mean", other way around, also getting falsely accused of a scam and replying back rather upset about the false accusation? Is mean, your judgement is clearly shallow or you didn't read it?

by **Bom** 9/3/2013, 7:30 pm

I'd just like to point out that Antdemo has many more arguments/insult exchanges than this. If people are going to start being punished, Owner Tank should certainly not be the only one who suffers.

by **Drakan** 9/3/2013, 7:33 pm

Owner Tank wrote:Kelly, so what your saying is replying to some one acting like an immature prick on your topic and sending you insulting pms and replying back to them is "mean", other way around, also getting falsely accused of a scam and replying back rather upset about the false accusation? Is mean, your judgement is clearly shallow or you didn't read it?

I hate to do this and Sorry for commenting out of nowhere, but, Owner Tank, you have only made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, and just because she made a thread on how you act on the forum if someone disagrees with your point of view and this is how she is interpreting the situation, you should be mature enough to realize this.

Just because you have a supposedly false accusation against you doesn't give you the right to flame the other party, you should post evidence that you are innocent and your actions and attitude will only speak in your favor. I have read those threads, You are flaming, even though you are angry, you must learn to control your anger. Hosts get false accusations all the time but do they start flaming the poster? No, they deal with the situation with a mature attitude and appeal to the proper authority, if you dealt with those situations more maturely, this thread most likely wouldn't be here today.

Edit: Ninja'd by Bom Razz

But in response to Bom, I agree those people should be punished aswell.

by **Bom** 9/3/2013, 7:36 pm

Drakan wrote:
Owner Tank wrote:Kelly, so what your saying is replying to some one acting like an immature prick on your topic and sending you insulting pms and replying back to them is "mean", other way around, also getting falsely accused of a scam and replying back rather upset about the false accusation? Is mean, your judgement is clearly shallow or you didn't read it?

I hate to do this and Sorry for commenting out of nowhere, but, Owner Tank, you have only made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, and just because she made a thread on how you act on the forum if someone disagrees with your point of view and this is how she is interpreting the situation, you should be mature enough to realize this.

Just because you have a supposedly false accusation against you doesn't give you the right to flame the other party, you should post evidence that you are innocent and your actions and attitude will only speak in your favor. I have read those threads, You are flaming, even though you are angry, you must learn to control your anger. Hosts get false accusations all the time but do they start flaming the poster? No, they deal with the situation with a mature attitude and appeal to the proper authority, if you dealt with those situations more maturely, this thread most likely wouldn't be here today.

Edit: Ninja'd by Bom

But in response to Bom, I agree those people should be punished too, but, Owner Tank should also, has he has commit the deed, and he must also pay the price for it.

Sorry re-reading my post it looks as if I'm defending Owner Tank - I was just trying to say that Ant is also way out of line here. Both of them acted inappropriately.

I also agree with everything you've said.

by **Owner Tank** 9/3/2013, 7:41 pm

Drakan wrote:
Owner Tank wrote:Kelly, so what your saying is replying to some one acting like an immature prick on your topic and sending you insulting pms and replying back to them is "mean", other way around, also getting falsely accused of a scam and replying back rather upset about the false accusation? Is mean, your judgement is clearly shallow or you didn't read it?

I hate to do this and Sorry for commenting out of nowhere, but, Owner Tank, you have only made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, and just because she made a thread on how you act on the forum if someone disagrees with your point of view and this is how she is interpreting the situation, you should be mature enough to realize this.

Just because you have a supposedly false accusation against you doesn't give you the right to flame the other party, you should post evidence that you are innocent and your actions and attitude will only speak in your favor. I have read those threads, You are flaming, even though you are angry, you must learn to control your anger. Hosts get false accusations all the time but do they start flaming the poster? No, they deal with the situation with a mature attitude and appeal to the proper authority, if you dealt with those situations more maturely, this thread most likely wouldn't be here today.

Edit: Ninja'd by Bom

But in response to Bom, I agree those people should be punished aswell.

That makes no sense? I made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, no actually I actually just questioned her judgement. And I'm gonna post evidence once this false scam reporter posts his bs evidence I will post my "evidence", My anger is perfectly controlled thanks for your concern, seems you didn't take the time to even check out the story? +1 postcount?

by **hammer man25** 9/3/2013, 7:47 pm

Owner Tank wrote:
Drakan wrote:
Owner Tank wrote:Kelly, so what your saying is replying to some one acting like an immature prick on your topic and sending you insulting pms and replying back to them is "mean", other way around, also getting falsely accused of a scam and replying back rather upset about the false accusation? Is mean, your judgement is clearly shallow or you didn't read it?

I hate to do this and Sorry for commenting out of nowhere, but, Owner Tank, you have only made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, and just because she made a thread on how you act on the forum if someone disagrees with your point of view and this is how she is interpreting the situation, you should be mature enough to realize this.

Just because you have a supposedly false accusation against you doesn't give you the right to flame the other party, you should post evidence that you are innocent and your actions and attitude will only speak in your favor. I have read those threads, You are flaming, even though you are angry, you must learn to control your anger. Hosts get false accusations all the time but do they start flaming the poster? No, they deal with the situation with a mature attitude and appeal to the proper authority, if you dealt with those situations more maturely, this thread most likely wouldn't be here today.

Edit: Ninja'd by Bom

But in response to Bom, I agree those people should be punished aswell.

That makes no sense? I made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, no actually I actually just questioned her judgement. And I'm gonna post evidence once this false scam reporter posts his bs evidence I will post my "evidence", My anger is perfectly controlled thanks for your concern, seems you didn't take the time to even check out the story? +1 postcount?

It wasn't so much that you responded, it's how you responded Calling someone an immature prick doesn't give off the most controlled view point. You tend to lash out. We're not against you responding, you just tend to do it in a "harmful" way.

by **Julij2** 9/3/2013, 7:49 pm

Owner Tank wrote:
Drakan wrote:
Owner Tank wrote:Kelly, so what your saying is replying to some one acting like an immature prick on your topic and sending you insulting pms and replying back to them is "mean", other way around, also getting falsely accused of a scam and replying back rather upset about the false accusation? Is mean, your judgement is clearly shallow or you didn't read it?

I hate to do this and Sorry for commenting out of nowhere, but, Owner Tank, you have only made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, and just because she made a thread on how you act on the forum if someone disagrees with your point of view and this is how she is interpreting the situation, you should be mature enough to realize this.

Just because you have a supposedly false accusation against you doesn't give you the right to flame the other party, you should post evidence that you are innocent and your actions and attitude will only speak in your favor. I have read those threads, You are flaming, even though you are angry, you must learn to control your anger. Hosts get false accusations all the time but do they start flaming the poster? No, they deal with the situation with a mature attitude and appeal to the proper authority, if you dealt with those situations more maturely, this thread most likely wouldn't be here today.

Edit: Ninja'd by Bom

But in response to Bom, I agree those people should be punished aswell.

That makes no sense? I made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, no actually I actually just questioned her judgement. And I'm gonna post evidence once this false scam reporter posts his bs evidence I will post my "evidence", My anger is perfectly controlled thanks for your concern, seems you didn't take the time to even check out the story? +1 postcount?

With every post you make the hole beneath your feet gets bigger and bigger.

You should be more respectful towards other forum members beacuse your attitude is horrible. You seem like you're short-tempered.

by **Owner Tank** 9/3/2013, 7:54 pm

Julij2 wrote:
Owner Tank wrote:
Drakan wrote:
Owner Tank wrote:Kelly, so what your saying is replying to some one acting like an immature prick on your topic and sending you insulting pms and replying back to them is "mean", other way around, also getting falsely accused of a scam and replying back rather upset about the false accusation? Is mean, your judgement is clearly shallow or you didn't read it?

I hate to do this and Sorry for commenting out of nowhere, but, Owner Tank, you have only made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, and just because she made a thread on how you act on the forum if someone disagrees with your point of view and this is how she is interpreting the situation, you should be mature enough to realize this.

Just because you have a supposedly false accusation against you doesn't give you the right to flame the other party, you should post evidence that you are innocent and your actions and attitude will only speak in your favor. I have read those threads, You are flaming, even though you are angry, you must learn to control your anger. Hosts get false accusations all the time but do they start flaming the poster? No, they deal with the situation with a mature attitude and appeal to the proper authority, if you dealt with those situations more maturely, this thread most likely wouldn't be here today.

Edit: Ninja'd by Bom

But in response to Bom, I agree those people should be punished aswell.

That makes no sense? I made her point stronger by questioning her judgement, no actually I actually just questioned her judgement. And I'm gonna post evidence once this false scam reporter posts his bs evidence I will post my "evidence", My anger is perfectly controlled thanks for your concern, seems you didn't take the time to even check out the story? +1 postcount?

With every post you make the hole beneath your feet gets bigger and bigger.

You should be more respectful towards other forum members beacuse your attitude is horrible. You seem like you're short-tempered.

Cool story bro.

by **Mangiare** 9/3/2013, 8:29 pm

Spoiler:

Cool story bro.

In my point of view, your anger is, by no means, in "control". You definitely seem to be short-tempered. It may be just today, or forever, I really don't care, but you shouldn't start flamming everyone on sight just because they stated what is obvious.

Even though there are some people who tend to call you a scammer, and that enrages you (which I completely understand), you shouldn't just start a fight on the spot.
You've said that you would post your evidence after he posted his. Why don't you post yours first?
Actually, why don't you change your actitude? This clan has a great community and most of the people who are here for some time talk to each other everytime, but you don't see much people fighting, do you?

Our hosts are the most "vulnerable" part on being called scammers and stuff like that, since most of them has gold shops and, even in game, they can misunderstand what the better said or did.

When someone comes to this clan saying that a host scammed them, do they just get enraged and start picking a fight with that person?
Of course not. They post evidence. They talk the situation over. It's not by calling someone a prick, or any other insult you may have in mind, that will help you on your needs.
On your particular case, I really think that your actitude may hurt you, instead of "proving your point". It is not rage that will solve things. It never did, it never will.

And I was one of your -reps on that last post of yours (the one I've quoted). Trying to be ironic has, in my eyes, proved that you're short-tempered and can't take critics, even though they're for your own good.
Kelly stated that you try to put people down, and, in some cases, you're mean. Well, I agree with her. I've read those 2 posts and this one and I haven't seen any effort to try and talk things over. Since your very first post in this topic, you've been attacking her. And anyone else who posted against you.

I do not think that you're wrong by being angry with antdemo and the other guy (whom I forgot the name). I'm saying that you're wrong by acting like you did. You really should've taken some time before posting, so your words wouldn't be so mean.

by **Skrillex** 9/3/2013, 8:36 pm

Forwarded to an admin to take a look at.

by **Owner Tank** 9/3/2013, 8:48 pm

[quote="Mangiare"]

Spoiler:

Cool story bro.

In my point of view, your anger is, by no means, in "control". You definitely seem to be short-tempered. It may be just today, or forever, I really don't care, but you shouldn't start flamming everyone on sight just because they stated what is obvious.

Even though there are some people who tend to call you a scammer, and that enrages you (which I completely understand), you shouldn't just start a fight on the spot.
You've said that you would post your evidence after he posted his. Why don't you post yours first?
Actually, why don't you change your actitude? This clan has a great community and most of the people who are here for some time talk to each other everytime, but you don't see much people fighting, do you?

Our hosts are the most "vulnerable" part on being called scammers and stuff like that, since most of them has gold shops and, even in game, they can misunderstand what the better said or did.

When someone comes to this clan saying that a host scammed them, do they just get enraged and start picking a fight with that person?
Of course not. They post evidence. They talk the situation over. It's not by calling someone a prick, or any other insult you may have in mind, that will help you on your needs.
On your particular case, I really think that your actitude may hurt you, instead of "proving your point". It is not rage that will solve things. It never did, it never will.

And I was one of your -reps on that last post of yours (the one I've quoted). Trying to be ironic has, in my eyes, proved that you're short-tempered and can't take critics, even though they're for your own good.
Kelly stated that you try to put people down, and, in some cases, you're mean. Well, I agree with her. I've read those 2 posts and this one and I haven't seen any effort to try and talk things over. Since your very first post in this topic, you've been attacking her. And anyone else who posted against you.

I do not think that you're wrong by being angry with antdemo and the other guy (whom I forgot the name). I'm saying that you're wrong by acting like you did. You really should've taken some time before posting, so your words wouldn't be so mean.[/quo

Wonderful, performance, you seem to be short in the section of the brain that allows you to think with your head not with your head jammed in your ass? What exactly was stated that was the obvious, nothing. As far as I know there never really was a good community in here with a bunch of arrogant stuck up assholes?

by **Kelly** 9/3/2013, 9:01 pm

Bom wrote:I'd just like to point out that Antdemo has many more arguments/insult exchanges than this. If people are going to start being punished, Owner Tank should certainly not be the only one who suffers.

I completely agree.

Also Owner Tank... I meant no disrespect in the first post. I tried to be as neutral as possible. But if you honestly look at your posts, they are many times mean or degrading of other people. No one is trying to pick on you, single you out, etc., but hopefully show you that it isn't fair or kind to do that to others. Would you want to be treated that way?

by **Lucky** 9/3/2013, 10:30 pm

For the record, I've already spoken to Ant about this thread and he's even gone as far to add Owner Tank to his Foe list to avoid future conflicts (this was stated on the thread)

So lets please keep replies to this thread to a minimum now.

by **Owner Tank** 9/3/2013, 11:29 pm

Kelly wrote:
Bom wrote:I'd just like to point out that Antdemo has many more arguments/insult exchanges than this. If people are going to start being punished, Owner Tank should certainly not be the only one who suffers.

I completely agree.

Also Owner Tank... I meant no disrespect in the first post. I tried to be as neutral as possible. But if you honestly look at your posts, they are many times mean or degrading of other people. No one is trying to pick on you, single you out, etc., but hopefully show you that it isn't fair or kind to do that to others. Would you want to be treated that way?

That's fine but honestly I'm not trying to be "mean to others", if you noticed that antdemeno started the arguement and he sent spiteful private messages, then you'd understand why I'm having the arguement in the first place. I'm sure every one could relate to that. And Henkgaming, is making these wild false accusations, but anyway I stopped argueing with him, I wanna see his so called "video", and get that whole situation resolved.

by **Dag** 10/3/2013, 1:56 am

Unless anyone has something to say pertaining to the report in the first post, please refrain from posting. This is clearly just sparking a heated debate that I'm sure nobody wants to be in. Any further argumentative posts will be deleted.

Thank you, much love <3

by **attk master** 10/3/2013, 8:12 am

Owner Tank wrote:
Kelly wrote:
Bom wrote:I'd just like to point out that Antdemo has many more arguments/insult exchanges than this. If people are going to start being punished, Owner Tank should certainly not be the only one who suffers.

I completely agree.

Also Owner Tank... I meant no disrespect in the first post. I tried to be as neutral as possible. But if you honestly look at your posts, they are many times mean or degrading of other people. No one is trying to pick on you, single you out, etc., but hopefully show you that it isn't fair or kind to do that to others. Would you want to be treated that way?

That's fine but honestly I'm not trying to be "mean to others", if you noticed that antdemeno started the arguement and he sent spiteful private messages, then you'd understand why I'm having the arguement in the first place. I'm sure every one could relate to that. And Henkgaming, is making these wild false accusations, but anyway I stopped argueing with him, I wanna see his so called "video", and get that whole situation resolved.

don't mean to spark an argument but i feel this is needed.

you're being aggressively blunt with people, it's as if you don't care how you talk to people. if it benefits you then you'll talk down or be mean to people, this is what it seems to me. on these forums being respectful towards others is a rule, it's best if you apologize for the things you've said and accept the punishment if there is any (if an admin gets in involved, i'm sure there will be) and move on.

it's up to you how this ends, hopefully you do the right thing and apologize. i won't be replying as i don't want to start an argument, but you must realize you've broken a rule and have said some things that shouldn't have been said.

by **Owner Tank** 10/3/2013, 1:52 pm

attk master wrote:
Owner Tank wrote:
Kelly wrote:
Bom wrote:I'd just like to point out that Antdemo has many more arguments/insult exchanges than this. If people are going to start being punished, Owner Tank should certainly not be the only one who suffers.

I completely agree.

Also Owner Tank... I meant no disrespect in the first post. I tried to be as neutral as possible. But if you honestly look at your posts, they are many times mean or degrading of other people. No one is trying to pick on you, single you out, etc., but hopefully show you that it isn't fair or kind to do that to others. Would you want to be treated that way?

That's fine but honestly I'm not trying to be "mean to others", if you noticed that antdemeno started the arguement and he sent spiteful private messages, then you'd understand why I'm having the arguement in the first place. I'm sure every one could relate to that. And Henkgaming, is making these wild false accusations, but anyway I stopped argueing with him, I wanna see his so called "video", and get that whole situation resolved.

don't mean to spark an argument but i feel this is needed.

you're being aggressively blunt with people, it's as if you don't care how you talk to people. if it benefits you then you'll talk down or be mean to people, this is what it seems to me. on these forums being respectful towards others is a rule, it's best if you apologize for the things you've said and accept the punishment if there is any (if an admin gets in involved, i'm sure there will be) and move on.

it's up to you how this ends, hopefully you do the right thing and apologize. i won't be replying as i don't want to start an argument, but you must realize you've broken a rule and have said some things that shouldn't have been said.

I do care how I talk with people actually, but if people aren't being respect or myself, or false propoganda is spread, then I will argue, honestly I will admit I have made some mistakes but I won't apologize, because I intervened into an arguement with henkgaming and antdemeno that I didn't even start.

by **Google** 16/3/2013, 2:40 pm

http://www.smokinelite.com/t73573-price-check-yew

Owner Tank has yet again stepped way out of line in this thread, directly insulting other members of the community.

Only right that this thread is kept alive as Owner Tank's attitude is shocking.

I will point an Admin in this direction.

by **Owner Tank** 16/3/2013, 2:41 pm

Yes, can admins ban me please I have already asked them so many times even pointing out that I Rep abuse and multiaccount I want a ban, and I Clearly think they should ban me.

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