Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
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Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels?
Whether alternative energy sources such as biofuels, hydrogen, solar, geothermal, or nuclear energy can meet energy demands better than finite fossil fuels such as oil and coal remains hotly debated.
pro's:
Proponents of alternative energy argue that fossil fuels are inefficient, unsustainable, environmentally destructive, and the primary contributor to global climate change. They say renewable energies are a viable and immediately needed alternative to fossil fuel use that could boost the US economy and reduce reliance on foreign energy sources.
cons:
Opponents contend that many technological hurdles have to be overcome before alternative energy can replace even a small portion of the power provided by fossil fuels. They say that fossil fuels will last hundreds of years longer, be made increasingly efficient, remain the most economical choice, and that reliance on inefficient alternative energies will hurt the economy.
aditional info can be found here:
- clicky:
- http://alternativeenergy.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001245
http://alternativeenergy.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001246
piramatrix- Forum Master (1500 posts)
Re: Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
Obviously the answer is yes, just a matter of when.
Nuclear power ftw.
Nuclear power ftw.
JeeOh- Tier 4 (500 posts)
Re: Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
I feel as time continues it grows more and more necessary for us to find alternative energy consumptions, besides fossil fuels. Long-term we consume more fossil fuels than we have available to use, so regardless we're going to end up running out. "Fossil fuels are non-renewable and take a long time to form through natural processes.1"
In addition to us simply running out of fossil fuels, it's overall much better for the environment if we continue to seek out more permanent alternative solutions, and over the last decade or two we have made leaps and strides in the direction of doing so. The problem we face moving forward, however, is simply the cost in which it takes to use said alternative solutions, as opposed to simply opting for fossil fuels.
In addition to us simply running out of fossil fuels, it's overall much better for the environment if we continue to seek out more permanent alternative solutions, and over the last decade or two we have made leaps and strides in the direction of doing so. The problem we face moving forward, however, is simply the cost in which it takes to use said alternative solutions, as opposed to simply opting for fossil fuels.
Kelly- Grandmaster (2000 posts)
Re: Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
The amount of land needed for solar panels to power the world, european nations, and Denmark respectively:
Really thats not viable?
Really thats not viable?
Ms. Santa- Grandmaster (2000 posts)
Re: Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
Kelly pretty much summed up my thoughts, as technology advances it will hopefully give more options to. As the world population increases we will use up more fossils quicker and one day run out unless an alternative can be found
RedRaven- Tier 4 (500 posts)
Re: Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
Well.... where to begin lol
I disagree that we will ever be able to replace fossil fuels with alternative means of energy, Can you imagine a electric powered airplane?.. No that's because its pretty much impossible to develop the amount of energy kerosene can with electricity, however electric cars are possible with one big downfall which is speed, that is a major issue in our day and age seeing as we need to get to places fast, further more even if we where to develop enough power from batteries to make a car travel the same speed as a petrol powered car, they will be extremely heavy meaning again it is slow.
Considering the time and money it will take for us to even develop something as useful as Crude Oil, i highly dough any government will invest in it.
I have more to say but ill wait for a reply first
I disagree that we will ever be able to replace fossil fuels with alternative means of energy, Can you imagine a electric powered airplane?.. No that's because its pretty much impossible to develop the amount of energy kerosene can with electricity, however electric cars are possible with one big downfall which is speed, that is a major issue in our day and age seeing as we need to get to places fast, further more even if we where to develop enough power from batteries to make a car travel the same speed as a petrol powered car, they will be extremely heavy meaning again it is slow.
Considering the time and money it will take for us to even develop something as useful as Crude Oil, i highly dough any government will invest in it.
I have more to say but ill wait for a reply first
Gildarts- Forum Fanatic (1000 posts)
Re: Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
Kid wrote:Well.... where to begin lol
I disagree that we will ever be able to replace fossil fuels with alternative means of energy, Can you imagine a electric powered airplane?.. No that's because its pretty much impossible to develop the amount of energy kerosene can with electricity, however electric cars are possible with one big downfall which is speed, that is a major issue in our day and age seeing as we need to get to places fast, further more even if we where to develop enough power from batteries to make a car travel the same speed as a petrol powered car, they will be extremely heavy meaning again it is slow.
Considering the time and money it will take for us to even develop something as useful as Crude Oil, i highly dough any government will invest in it.
I have more to say but ill wait for a reply first
100 years back this would have been the very same argument given against possibly developing something like a car or even a light bulb. At the rate that humans are advancing in technology I would say that those problems are at most very small issues.
Also, it is very much possible atm to live completely off of alternative energy although it is just rather expensive.
Natsu- Event Demon
Re: Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
The answer is a definite yes. Not only is it possible but in many situations it's possible right now.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/roundworld-solarpowered-plane-solar-impulse-2-completes-first-test-flight-in-switzerland/story-fnjww1r5-1226941374693
The electric plane, for example, already exists, it's just real slow. However it can fly nonstop for 120 hours and is scheduled to fly completely around the world in one trip next year. A lot of work needs to be done before it could be considered for commercial flight, but it has other applications such as a low orbit satellite system.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/almost-orbital-solar-powered-drone-offered-as-atmospheric-satellite/
As for completely living off alternative energy being too expensive, I can set up a house on solar power for around $6,000 aud which is not much at all in the end for never having another power bill. However designing a house to never need heating/cooling, recycling water etc does cost a lot more. But over 25 years (a basic minimum lifespan for a house) it's cheaper since there are no power and limited water bills etc over that time.
http://www.infiniteenergy.com.au/case-studies/residential/joshs-house
And if your still not convinced then check out the 2006 documentary "Who killed the electric car" which is based around a production vehicle from the mid 90's. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489037/
http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/roundworld-solarpowered-plane-solar-impulse-2-completes-first-test-flight-in-switzerland/story-fnjww1r5-1226941374693
The electric plane, for example, already exists, it's just real slow. However it can fly nonstop for 120 hours and is scheduled to fly completely around the world in one trip next year. A lot of work needs to be done before it could be considered for commercial flight, but it has other applications such as a low orbit satellite system.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/almost-orbital-solar-powered-drone-offered-as-atmospheric-satellite/
As for completely living off alternative energy being too expensive, I can set up a house on solar power for around $6,000 aud which is not much at all in the end for never having another power bill. However designing a house to never need heating/cooling, recycling water etc does cost a lot more. But over 25 years (a basic minimum lifespan for a house) it's cheaper since there are no power and limited water bills etc over that time.
http://www.infiniteenergy.com.au/case-studies/residential/joshs-house
And if your still not convinced then check out the 2006 documentary "Who killed the electric car" which is based around a production vehicle from the mid 90's. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489037/
[ADMIN] Billious- Administrator
Re: Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
Actually there are sports car electric vehicles. You see the eco-friendly celebrities and rich folk around here drive one and promote it. It cost roughly $4 in electricity for 170 Miles. Sure its not as fast as your standard Lambo or Ferrari but, its a lot cheaper to use then 5 Miles to the Gallon.
KMV- Grandmaster (2000 posts)
Re: Can alternative energy effectively replace fossil fuels? [passed]
i'm pretty sure it will happen fossil fuels will be replaced someday, just not in the near future. a big problem are the big oil corporations and oil lords. they have to much money and power and they are not willing to lose it. they are making deals with multiple presidents to keep using oil and not fund any reaserch towards new alternative energy's in trade for massive fundings for their election campaigns. this is a huge setback to any mayor renewable energy project.
something i myself am very intrested in is the reasearch towards nuclear fusion. it had an enormous energy potential and unlike nuclear fission it doesn't leave any radioactive waste.
for those who don't know what nuclear fusion is:
something i myself am very intrested in is the reasearch towards nuclear fusion. it had an enormous energy potential and unlike nuclear fission it doesn't leave any radioactive waste.
for those who don't know what nuclear fusion is:
- clicky:
- Nuclear fusion is a process where two or more nuclei combine to form an element with a higher atomic number (more protons in the nucleus). Fusion is the reverse process of nuclear fission. Fusion reactions power the Sun and other stars.
Fusion releases energy. The energy released is related to Einstein's famous equation, E=mc2.
For a fusion reaction to occur it is necessary to bring the nuclei so close together that nuclear forces become important and "glue" the nuclei together. The nuclear force only acts over incredibly small distances and has to counteract the electrostatic force where the positively charged nuclei repel each other. For these reasons fusion most easily occurs in a high density, high temperature environment.
On Earth, nuclear fusion was first reached in the explosion of the Hydrogen bomb. In a non-desctructive manner, fusion has also been reached in different experimental devices aimed at studying the possibility of producing energy in a controlled fashion.
piramatrix- Forum Master (1500 posts)
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